Scopes on Air rifles

[70dimer]

Nowadays the trend seems to be for ever larger scopes on air rifles.I personally think that these high magnification scopes(over 10x) are unnecessary at normal airgun ranges i.e out to about 40 yds.After all using 10x mag at 40yds is the same as 4yds with the naked eye so lets face if you need 10x mag at 40yds or less you'd be better off visiting the opticians for an eye test and getting some contact lenses or a decent pair of glasses.Some people new to air gunning are swayed by high magnification and large objective lens scopes but they should remember that a scope will not only magnify the target ,it will also magnify any unsteadiness in the hold as well.As regards light gathering capabilities lens quality and the quality of the coatings on the lenses is more important than lens size.If you're shooting in relatively poor light e.g at dusk then a bit of extra magnification may be handy.Some shooters fail to give enough time for their eyes to adjust to the poorer light conditions,allowing your eyes to adjust can make quite a difference,even with a simple 4x32 or 4x40 scope.I believe the pupil in the human eye has a maximum dilation of about 8 so any scope with an exit pupil of more than this is relatively unnecessary.Fixed parallax scopes should be adjusted to about 30yds for airgun use I reckon or alternatively use a PA adjustable scope. I'd be interested on other persons view.

[BKinzey]

I'm skeptical. I think you will come back in a few days and edit a link into your post.

When you do, I'll report you.

Last edited by 70dimer on Mon May 03, 2021 3:21 am, edited 1 time in total.

You did it, so I reported you. Was it worth it?

[Scorpion8]

You did it, so I reported you. Was it worth it?

The OP did edit a link, but it's not spam. I went to the site, seems legit if a bit unknown. Whats up?

[BKinzey]

You did it, so I reported you. Was it worth it?

The OP did edit a link, but it's not spam. I went to the site, seems legit if a bit unknown. Whats up?

Seeing this on other forums. New member, a somewhat related but odd post (Scopes on air rifles on a shotgun forum in Tactical/Home Defense) and then the post is edited to contain a link. I'm still skeptical. I'm betting they won't respond to the discussion about their post either.

Not sure of the methodology. Hard to believe it's profitable for the person doing it, but something is afoot.

ETA:
Just saw there was an introductory post in "New Members". That doesn't follow the pattern.

[Scorpion8]

Hard to believe it's profitable for the person doing it.

I wonder about all spam on these forums. It takes a spammer several minutes to set up the account, answer questions, etc and then find a forum to dump into. It take me seconds to make their time worthless. How many do you have to do in a day to get a single one that flies through and some newbie clicks on the link?

[BKinzey]

They've come a long way from:

"I'm posting this from my 10 million dollar yacht, I make hundreds of thousands of dollars a day with my system and you can too!"

[Scorpion8]

There's still some of those. I just got an e-mail from a Nigerian prince last week needing to share his $millions with me. So they try the old tricks, but the smarter ones have moved onto Colonial Pipeline.

[mrperkinsmark]

I don't know whether it is a spammer or not but I find this thread interesting. I’m no expert in rangefinders but what I have been told is that a safe “rule of thumb” is to double the distance you expect to use. If you want reliability at 800 you will do best with 1600x. That was said to me some years ago so with technology I’d bet that can be reduced a bit - say 1200+ would be reliable.

A buddy of mine has that Vortex model. When he uses it to range off of benchrest sized target boards at 1000 it is about 80% reliable. MOA sized steel plates past 700 yards usually need to be sized about 5-6 times to get a good range.

Nowadays the trend seems to be for ever larger scopes on air rifles.I personally think that these high magnification scopes(over 10x) are unnecessary at normal airgun ranges i.e out to about 40 yds.After all using 10x mag at 40yds is the same as 4yds with the naked eye so lets face if you need 10x mag at 40yds or less you'd be better off visiting the opticians for an eye test and getting some contact lenses or a decent pair of glasses.Some people new to air gunning are swayed by high magnification and large objective lens scopes but they should remember that a scope will not only magnify the target ,it will also magnify any unsteadiness in the hold as well.As regards light gathering capabilities lens quality and the quality of the coatings on the lenses is more important than lens size.If you're shooting in relatively poor light e.g at dusk then a bit of extra magnification may be handy.Some shooters fail to give enough time for their eyes to adjust to the poorer light conditions,allowing your eyes to adjust can make quite a difference,even with a simple 4x32 or 4x40 scope.I believe the pupil in the human eye has a maximum dilation of about 8 so any scope with an exit pupil of more than this is relatively unnecessary.Fixed parallax scopes should be adjusted to about 30yds for airgun use I reckon or alternatively use a PA adjustable scope. I'd be interested on other persons view.

[FloridaWing]

"Scopes (over 10x) are unnecessary at normal airgun ranges i.e out to about 40 yds."?
Scopes with higher magnification are totally appropriate on air rifles - I usually start at 50 yards!

I have a .25 cal PCP air rifle (won't mention brand) and on a windless day can get sub 2" groups at 100 yards shooting 25.39 grain JSB pellets at 880-900 fps - at 50 yards the grouping for 8 shots is regularly about nickle size.

Even with eyeglasses my 70 year-old eyes just don't have the acuity they once did, and I'm not ashamed to say a 6-24 power x 50mm Athlon scope with parallax adjustment set around 16 power magnification has really helped.

For chardobon - this might answer your question: https://www.riflezone.com/different-typ ... e%20barrel.