Pistol grip with stock

Automag · Post by **Automag** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:41 am

Not a problem JBall, we're both just trying to inform and help

DaveC · Post by **DaveC** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:44 pm

Choate youth-sized pistol-grip stock here...

Honestly, a pistol-grip stock works good with the Remington 870 because of where the safety is. If I had a Mossberg with the tang mounted safety, I'd stick with the conventional stock design, frankly. My experience with recoil reducing stocks is limited, but I've seen folks throw a shot with them because they were not held into the shoulder pocket tightly. I'd have to research more on those kinds of stocks if I were to adopt one. Good luck!

Waldo_88 · Post by **Waldo_88** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:51 pm

The FAB defense looks like a good option for me but I came across a "kit" or a "combo" if you will on Amazon. It is the FAB defense CL stock meant for the M4/AR15 but it comes with an Ultimate Arms Gear pistol grip and buffer tube so that it can fit on my 870...It is considerably cheaper than going all FAB at only $125...I understand you usually get what you pay for but I was wondering if anyone has had an experience with any of the Ultimate Arms products??

JBall · Post by **JBall** » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:46 am

Never heard of them... To but to each his own. Personally i believe the stock is certainly no place to skimp, but thats just my opinion. Can I ask why you are so set in the specific AR style grip with buffer tube? I could understand if you wanted to run a recoil reducer or a high tube adapter because of a rail. If not I would really recommend a solid pistol grip stock. The adjustable LOP makes for to much variance ability. As humans we tend to always want to blame our short comings on the machine (ie. wrong LOP) and always want to adjust the stock rather than taking a look at our possible shitty fundamentals lol.

Automag · Post by **Automag** » Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:45 am

I think you're referring to the Fab Defense GL-Shock-Stock. This is offered by Fab Defense as a nice upgrade to the GLR-16 Stock that came on my Fab Defense R. Reducing Stock Kit that i have already posted pics of (the GLR-16 can be removed and replaced by the GL-Shock). It has it's own spring built inside, and is considered an upgrade b/c it gives you even more recoil reducing properties. It sounds like they are mating it up with a cheap Pistol Grip/Buffer tube assembly, to make a more affordably priced overall package deal. I have heard of Ultimate arms, but they don't make very good products, from what i've heard. The Fab Defense GL-Shock usually goes for close to 100.00 by itself, so if you do the math, what does that make the rest of their "package deal" tell you. Actually, i've never heard of that combination of parts before. If you did see correctly that is was a Fab Defense "CL" Stock, i've never heard of that before.

I don't want to disuade you from buying what you want, i'm only trying to help you make an informed choice. It sort of sounds like you are working within a budget, and trying to get the best you can for your money, i can understand that. If you really want that mixed setup, you can always easily return it to Amazon if the Ultimate Arms Parts turn out to be , well junk. If you are really set on a high quality, recoil reducing AR style pistol grip stock, i'm afraid you might have to spend the money for one. Your stock is a very important part of your shotgun, and is not a good place to skimp, as JBall already said. Like i've already said, Fab Defense makes a Great Recoil Reducing Pistol Grip Stock, and mine shot and handled extremely well, but you'd have to spend about 240.00 or so for that stock (from Amazon).

Have you given any thought to the Mesa Tactical Urbino Pistol Grip Stock. That is a real nice fixed LOP stock, and something to think about as an alternative, for a descent price too. Anyway Good Luck!

reeps · Post by **reeps** » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:25 pm

I have a UAG pistol grip stock. It is ok, nothing special, and nothing wrong. It fires fine.

Automag · Post by **Automag** » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:53 pm

Ok, you got me curious as to what you were talking about, so i just had to see for myself. Yeah Amazon is indeed selling a couple of these "package deals", one with Recoil Reducing UAG Pistol Grip/Buffer Tube assembly, and one with Phoenix Kicklite Parts, and both do include the Fab Defense GL-Shock Stock and with a Fab Cheekriser included, all for 125 bucks. The good news is that the Fab Defense Stock and Cheekriser are worth 130 bucks if you bought them individually, and the GL-Shock is an awesome stock, and reduces recoil on its own, and includes the rear storage areas too.

I'm not very familiar with Ultimate Arms stuff, but if you really are set on getting this style stock setup, i'd say give her a try and go for it. It will fit your 870, and the Fab parts alone make it worth the price. EDIT: Ultimate Arms copied Fabs' design, only using a "commercial buffer tube", and you can remove the stock and tube, and use pistol grip only. Sounds like it might be a descent deal, for what you want.

JBall · Post by **JBall** » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:54 pm

I agree, you should definitely consider the Urbino! Great stock. Or consider the Magpul SGA. It's not quite a pistol grip but the ergonomics are great and its quite similar. Purchase the SGA Remington butt pad adapter and a Remington supercell pad (all together under a 50$ combined upgrade) for a shotgun that is as comfortable and painless to shoot as anything else i have fired, recoil reducing or otherwise. Add that to the spacer system that already comes build into the stock and comes with 4, 1/2" spacers (I believe taking you from 12.5-14.5 LOP) and you got a pretty fuckin sweet stock. In addition, just for reference, you can also buy a "high" or "low" cheek riser kit to help adapt to optics. All gunsmith free adjustments in minutes or less with experience.

Waldo_88 · Post by **Waldo_88** » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:35 pm

I finally got a hold of the seller and they said just the butt stock was FAB and the pistol grip and bugger tube were of a different brand...I guess what threw me off the most was that the GL stock was made for the m4/m16, i had no idea you could change out the grips to fit a 870. But after a few nights of research and reviews I decided not to cut any corners. I've been burned by the "you get what you pay for" scheme before so I'll have to wait for the next paycheck to come in but I'm going to go with the ARG870 FK SB

Waldo_88 · Post by **Waldo_88** » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:40 pm

JBall wrote:Never heard of them... To but to each his own. Personally i believe the stock is certainly no place to skimp, but thats just my opinion. Can I ask why you are so set in the specific AR style grip with buffer tube? I could understand if you wanted to run a recoil reducer or a high tube adapter because of a rail. If not I would really recommend a solid pistol grip stock. The adjustable LOP makes for to much variance ability. As humans we tend to always want to blame our short comings on the machine (ie. wrong LOP) and always want to adjust the stock rather than taking a look at our possible shitty fundamentals lol.

I agree and ended up going all FAB but I chose the AR style because I've seen guys swear by the recoil reducer, and honestly they just look badass. I'm not sure if that's a valid excuse but it is what it is lol

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