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Re: Boycott
I wonder if you were one of the several hundred that would lose their job and livelihood should such an action take place that you'd still feel as strongly? Just some food for thought. Relocation is not an option for every employee who is currently employed there I wouldn't think? Everyone is entitled to making their own choices in regards to anything they purchase. As for me, I'll continue to use and purchase 870's. Haven't purchased a Remington rifle in years.
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Re: Boycott
Check out this interview with John Stephens, the mayor of Ilion. He's not a communist, or an evil, government fat cat. He's a regular guy who wears his steel-toes and a t-shirt to work. He's a gun owner, and a concealed-carry permit holder who knows exactly how much BS was in the NY Safe Act.
As of the recent census, Ilion has a population of 8053, and an employed labor force of 3383. Remington's facility in Ilion employs over 1200 people. For almost 200 years, that Remington factory has been the reason that town existed. People work at the Remington plant to put money in the Remington Federal Credit Union, or to feed their kids who attend Remington Elementary School. The remainder of the village that doesn't work directly for Remington are the teachers, grocers, plumbers, and so on that make up the community's infrastructure.
The civilian labor force in the state of New York is around 9.5 million. If Remington abandons all it's current contractual obligations involving the Ilion plant (which, by the way, is not the only Remington facility; others are located in other states like Arkansas and Kentucky), and moves it and 1200 employees to another state (let's assume some ideal employee relocation program, and that all non-Remington workers left behind in Ilion find other work in-state), they will have removed .013% of the state's jobs. That's 1.3 percent of one percent of the jobs in the state. So it'd be a symbolic gesture, but not an especially weighty one in the larger scheme of things.
Meanwhile, with the keystone of Ilion's economy removed, virtually everyone left behind would be unemployed, and would be forced to relocate to find work. The nearly 300-year-old village will shrivel up and die. No more annual Frog Jumping Contest, no more Talent Nights at the Municipal Building. As for the relocated Remington employees, many of them will also face unemployment because, by moving its factory and suspending production, Remington abandoned existing contracts and customers while at the same time spending millions to relocate and rebuild its production operations.
The citizens of Ilion aren't communists; they aren't goose-stepping along to Governor Cuomo's every whim. They're normal Americans who are not only having their constitutional rights attacked along with everyone else in New York, but are also seeing their livelihood in the arms industry being targeted. It's easy to sit behind a keyboard and self-righteously attack Remington for staying put and "supporting the evil, socialist state of New York" instead of making a political statement and moving; but you have to consider that such a statement will not dissuade or punish the likes of Bloomberg or Cuomo. Instead, the folks that will suffer are normal, blue-collar American citizens that depend on Remington.
As of the recent census, Ilion has a population of 8053, and an employed labor force of 3383. Remington's facility in Ilion employs over 1200 people. For almost 200 years, that Remington factory has been the reason that town existed. People work at the Remington plant to put money in the Remington Federal Credit Union, or to feed their kids who attend Remington Elementary School. The remainder of the village that doesn't work directly for Remington are the teachers, grocers, plumbers, and so on that make up the community's infrastructure.
The civilian labor force in the state of New York is around 9.5 million. If Remington abandons all it's current contractual obligations involving the Ilion plant (which, by the way, is not the only Remington facility; others are located in other states like Arkansas and Kentucky), and moves it and 1200 employees to another state (let's assume some ideal employee relocation program, and that all non-Remington workers left behind in Ilion find other work in-state), they will have removed .013% of the state's jobs. That's 1.3 percent of one percent of the jobs in the state. So it'd be a symbolic gesture, but not an especially weighty one in the larger scheme of things.
Meanwhile, with the keystone of Ilion's economy removed, virtually everyone left behind would be unemployed, and would be forced to relocate to find work. The nearly 300-year-old village will shrivel up and die. No more annual Frog Jumping Contest, no more Talent Nights at the Municipal Building. As for the relocated Remington employees, many of them will also face unemployment because, by moving its factory and suspending production, Remington abandoned existing contracts and customers while at the same time spending millions to relocate and rebuild its production operations.
The citizens of Ilion aren't communists; they aren't goose-stepping along to Governor Cuomo's every whim. They're normal Americans who are not only having their constitutional rights attacked along with everyone else in New York, but are also seeing their livelihood in the arms industry being targeted. It's easy to sit behind a keyboard and self-righteously attack Remington for staying put and "supporting the evil, socialist state of New York" instead of making a political statement and moving; but you have to consider that such a statement will not dissuade or punish the likes of Bloomberg or Cuomo. Instead, the folks that will suffer are normal, blue-collar American citizens that depend on Remington.
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I live in Colorado. We used to be a pro-gun state, but now anti-gun. What are we supposed to do move from state to state as they change their attitudes about guns?
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If possible LoL. I know I'm currently working on leaving NY for good!Rambler wrote:I live in Colorado. We used to be a pro-gun state, but now anti-gun. What are we supposed to do move from state to state as they change their attitudes about guns?