Boycott

[H8Crime]

Anyone here boycotting Remington until they move from the socialist state of Nanny York?

[reeps]

No.

[Synchronizor]

Remington has been a New York institution for almost 200 years; ever since 1816, when Eliphalet Remington II placed second in a shooting competition using a homemade flintlock rifle and other competitors wanted their own Remington rifles.

Why should Remington be held responsible for the BS legislation that politicians rushed through? That'd be like boycotting Corvettes because the government cut the freeway speed limits down to 45 MPH.

[reeps]

I am guessing he is a troll

[Chief Brody]

Nah, not a troll. I'm from NY (living in CT now...woops.) and on the 9,000 member-strong Long Island Firearms forum, there's quite a lot of anti-Remington sentiment. Magpul, Beretta, and others publicly leaving -or preparing/promising to leave- their home states for greener and freer pastures, while Remington stays in one of the most anti-gun states around. A lot of people are boycotting them. "Huge government contract? Sure, we'll stay."- That's making a lot of gun-buyers look elsewhere. If I was in the market for any new guns (can't afford any right now), I would absolutely be purchasing from companies doing the right thing during this whole mess by sticking it to the government and conducting their business from a pro-gun state.

[ponycarman]

Nah, not a troll. I'm from NY (living in CT now...woops.) and on the 9,000 member-strong Long Island Firearms forum, there's quite a lot of anti-Remington sentiment. Magpul, Beretta, and others publicly leaving -or preparing/promising to leave- their home states for greener and freer pastures, while Remington stays in one of the most anti-gun states around. A lot of people are boycotting them. "Huge government contract? Sure, we'll stay."- That's making a lot of gun-buyers look elsewhere. If I was in the market for any new guns (can't afford any right now), I would absolutely be purchasing from companies doing the right thing during this whole mess by sticking it to the government and conducting their business from a pro-gun state.

I agree with ya there chief. My dissapointment with remington as a company isn't really with them being in NY. There are many other firearm manufacterers that are in gun unfriendly states. Isn't smith and wesson in Illinois? My main issue is that they expressed strong intentions to relocate if the new laws were passed. But then after a meeting with elected officials and getting the large contract they suddenly are content with staying. Just that leads me to believe that they were given the contract to stay or given something else in return. Sounds like a bribe to me.

Don't get me wrong, I love my 870's. But I probably won't buy anything new from remington for a while. But really thats nothing new for me because I have never bought anything new from them now and haven't planned on doing so. I guess I just prefer the older stuff

[Kentactic]

If they are making deals with the devil thats one thing. Simply being located behind enemy lines is just a geographical misfortune.

[Synchronizor]

My main issue is that they expressed strong intentions to relocate if the new laws were passed. But then after a meeting with elected officials and getting the large contract they suddenly are content with staying. Just that leads me to believe that they were given the contract to stay or given something else in return. Sounds like a bribe to me.

There's a lot of mud being thrown about Remington's recent acquisition of a contract to supply 5000 sniper rifles to the DOD, but that contract is just a footnote compared to a prior Army contract for 24000 M4 carbines that was posted in the summer of 2011, and awarded to Remington in April of 2012 - long before politicians found a foothold for their anti-gun agendas in the Sandy Hook shooting.

Whatever politics are involved with the sniper rifle contract, Remington was already committed to the M4 contract, with the first deliveries due this summer. That contract is specifically for rifles to be produced at the Ilion factory, and the facility is undoubtedly in the process of gearing up production. Packing up and moving right now is simply not possible, sniper rifle contract or not.

Above that, that factory employs 1200 workers that need to support their families; and from what I understand, the entire village of Ilion, population about 8000, exists primarily because that factory is there. I grew up in an awesome little town in Alaska - population ~8000 - that existed for three reasons: lumber, fishing/shipping, and tourism (during the short stretch of summer when folks from the lower 48 could tolerate the weather). When I was in grade school, the Clinton Administration refused to reinstate the pulp company's contract following EPA violations, and the big timber mill shut down. That put just 500 employees out of work, but it still hit the town hard. My siblings and I had a lot of friends move away that year. I hate to imagine how devastated Ilion would be if all 1200 Remington employees suddenly found themselves unemployed.

I applaud and support companies like Magpul that are taking a political stand. However, I also recognize that such displays will not be realistic or responsible courses of action for other companies. Instead of attacking Remington - who are at worst trying to fulfill their contracts, and at best trying to do right by their employees - why not turn our attention to the politicians who are systematically working to strip all New Yorkers -including the 8000 in Ilion - of their constitutional rights?

[Bastard File]

Remington has made really fine firearms for a great number of years. They did buy Marlin and have virtually ruined it with the inability to manufacture lever action rifles. However, I'll still buy and use 870's...while I usually get them used and fix them up, I did buy a new 870 with nutmeg laminated wood a few months ago. I put a 20" Improved Cylinder rifle sight barrel on it and a Scattergun Technologies one round extension. Hence, the only new Remington I've bought of late.

[H8Crime]

I was really interested in purchasing a new 700 IF and WHEN Remington opted to leave Nanny York for a more friendly 2A state. There are plenty of places for new opportunities to relocate to rather than supporting a socialist state with their revenue. Like most 2A supporters, I support with my dollars. My dollars are probably going towards a Utah-based firearm manufacturer for that new rifle.

I love my 870 and won't part with it. It's disappointing that my primary HD weapon is manufactured by a company that will continue to fund a socialist agenda. And I can not support that.

Time for this 'troll' to refill his 32-oz Big Gulp!