I am looking to pick up my foirst shotgun and the local pawn shop has a used Wingmaster for $250. Is this a good price?
It does look used but I am not getting it to sit in a gun case. I want to actually use it so I am not worried about appearance. I want to use it for mostly target shooting on my property and for home defense. Would I have a problem finding a longer barrel for it? not sure of the age but it appears by looks that is isn't new by any means.
Thank you.
Max
Used wingmaster 12ga 20" barrel whats a good price?
Re: Used wingmaster 12ga 20" barrel whats a good price?
In honesty, condition is everything. And the rule of the game is to get as much money as you can.
With that said, you can get a brand new express for $300'ish.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/REMINGTO ... s?slotId=6
And you could probably get one cheaper if you look around. That was just one of the first links that popped up in a google search.
Offer them $175 and let them counter to $200 or $225.
But I'd try to get it as close to $200 as I could as long as it was mechanically sound and didn't have any major issues.
Otherwise, I'd just buy a new one and be done with it.
And the link above already has a longer barrel and interchangeable chokes you're wanting in the first place. That means you won't be spending another $120 on another barrel for the pawn shop gun. By then, you'd be in for more than a new one costs.
With that said, you can get a brand new express for $300'ish.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/REMINGTO ... s?slotId=6
And you could probably get one cheaper if you look around. That was just one of the first links that popped up in a google search.
Offer them $175 and let them counter to $200 or $225.
But I'd try to get it as close to $200 as I could as long as it was mechanically sound and didn't have any major issues.
Otherwise, I'd just buy a new one and be done with it.
And the link above already has a longer barrel and interchangeable chokes you're wanting in the first place. That means you won't be spending another $120 on another barrel for the pawn shop gun. By then, you'd be in for more than a new one costs.
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Re: Used wingmaster 12ga 20" barrel whats a good price?
I was planning on getting a new express when I came across this one. I don't know muck about either one and just assumed the wingmaster was a much better quality with what people say about them and therefore this was a good deal. I am Leary of buying anything used especially if it isn't something I am familiar with enough to know if I am getting a good product. I have also read that the quality of the newer products do not match the quality of the older ones.
As far as the shorter barrel, I was wanting to get 2 barrels anyways and go from HD to target shooting. It sounds like that isn't as good of a deal as I was expecting.
Am I better off just getting a new express rather than looking for a used wingmaster in your opinion? I don't care about high quality walnut stocks. I just want a quality reliable gun that I can play around with.
4 out of the 5 reviews on the new one in your post are not good.
As far as the shorter barrel, I was wanting to get 2 barrels anyways and go from HD to target shooting. It sounds like that isn't as good of a deal as I was expecting.
Am I better off just getting a new express rather than looking for a used wingmaster in your opinion? I don't care about high quality walnut stocks. I just want a quality reliable gun that I can play around with.
4 out of the 5 reviews on the new one in your post are not good.
Re: Used wingmaster 12ga 20" barrel whats a good price?
I'm going to be honest.
I don't have any experience with any "new" Remington products.
I am happy with the old one that I bought recently. It was a 1989 model. In fairness, I paid $150 for it, but probably because it was a friend. Had it been someone else, he would've asked more. And it was also a 20 inch cylinder barrel.
There are a lot of questions from folks buying new guns on this forum. Seems like there are many that buy new ones and immediately starts asking about what parts they need to change for it be more reliable.
I understand your point about expecting an older one to be made with better quality parts. I'm right there with you.
Maybe you could print out the Remington date codes and look at the barrel and find out roughly when the gun was made. That would maybe help you make a more educated decision whether you wanted to get that one, or wait for another.
I don't have any experience with any "new" Remington products.
I am happy with the old one that I bought recently. It was a 1989 model. In fairness, I paid $150 for it, but probably because it was a friend. Had it been someone else, he would've asked more. And it was also a 20 inch cylinder barrel.
There are a lot of questions from folks buying new guns on this forum. Seems like there are many that buy new ones and immediately starts asking about what parts they need to change for it be more reliable.
I understand your point about expecting an older one to be made with better quality parts. I'm right there with you.
Maybe you could print out the Remington date codes and look at the barrel and find out roughly when the gun was made. That would maybe help you make a more educated decision whether you wanted to get that one, or wait for another.
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Re: Used wingmaster 12ga 20" barrel whats a good price?
In my area, the older Remington's actually bring a premium over new. I was at a gun show last weekend and the best price on a used Wingmaster I saw was $550. And it was really used.
Ask the pawn shop if you can remove the barrel and pins to inspect the internals (or have them do it for you). If you have the serial #, you can call Remington at 1 (800) 243-9700, extension 7, and they will tell you when the receiver was made, and what barrel was on it when it left the factory. They are very quick to answer calls with a real live person. The barrel code will only tell you the barrel manufacture date, but if it is the same as the manufacture date of the receiver, I like that.
Some limitations of buying used, depending on age; maybe just a fixed choke, and possibly only 2-3/4" shells. If an interchangeable choke system or being able to fire 3" shells is critical to your application, then it may not be the 870 for you.
FWIW- like many others, I hate the finish on the post-1995(ish) Expresses. As long as everything is there and in good condition, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a used Wingmaster for $250. Even if it isn't what you want in the end, you should be able to sell it for around that.
Ask the pawn shop if you can remove the barrel and pins to inspect the internals (or have them do it for you). If you have the serial #, you can call Remington at 1 (800) 243-9700, extension 7, and they will tell you when the receiver was made, and what barrel was on it when it left the factory. They are very quick to answer calls with a real live person. The barrel code will only tell you the barrel manufacture date, but if it is the same as the manufacture date of the receiver, I like that.
Some limitations of buying used, depending on age; maybe just a fixed choke, and possibly only 2-3/4" shells. If an interchangeable choke system or being able to fire 3" shells is critical to your application, then it may not be the 870 for you.
FWIW- like many others, I hate the finish on the post-1995(ish) Expresses. As long as everything is there and in good condition, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a used Wingmaster for $250. Even if it isn't what you want in the end, you should be able to sell it for around that.
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Re: Used wingmaster 12ga 20" barrel whats a good price?
Another thing to be aware of, if this is going to be a HD gun, is that earlier 12ga 870s could experience a specific type of feed malfunction that had the potential to severely lock up the action. For HD or other critical fighting roles, what you really want is a gun that has a handful of updated "flex-tab" components that prevent this jam from occurring. Older 870s can be retrofitted with the newer parts, but often (though not always) buying an older gun plus the updated parts will be more expensive overall than simply looking for a mid-1980s or newer 870 that came from the factory with the improved parts. Just something to think about.