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a few of my Military rifles

Post by Banshee » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:36 pm

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Re: a few of my Military rifles

Post by Banshee » Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:49 am

I found this Swiss K31 on the company classified the other day. over all a nice rifle

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made in 1946. all matching with beautiful bore.

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typical water damage on the butt end of the stock and no ID tag under the plate

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a little bluing wear

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Re: a few of my Military rifles

Post by Komodoj » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:19 pm

Sweet!!!! And hello from member at UT!!!

Banshee wrote:
Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:49 am
I found this Swiss K31 on the company classified the other day. over all a nice rifle

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made is 1946. all matching with beautiful bore.

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typical water damage on the butt end of the stock and no ID tag under the plate

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a little bluing wear

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Re: a few of my Military rifles

Post by DaveC » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:13 am

Superb collection. I'm partial to your M1917 Enfield... Unless its a P14 :?:

Those Swiss rifles are something else. I had a 1911 Schmidt-Rubin Langgewehr, but I gave it to a friend along with the papier-maché/sheet metal charger clips.

I've got a French MAS Mle. 1936 I'm thinking of using at a match on Sunday. Also lots and lots of Mosin-Nagant rifles, a pair of M1 carbines--both Inland--an M1 Garand... etc. Thanks for the pics! :)
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Re: a few of my Military rifles

Post by Banshee » Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:56 am

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Superb collection. I'm partial to your M1917 Enfield... Unless its a P14 :?:

Those Swiss rifles are something else. I had a 1911 Schmidt-Rubin Langgewehr, but I gave it to a friend along with the papier-maché/sheet metal charger clips.

I've got a French MAS Mle. 1936 I'm thinking of using at a match on Sunday. Also lots and lots of Mosin-Nagant rifles, a pair of M1 carbines--both Inland--an M1 Garand... etc. Thanks for the pics! :)
No, it's not a P14. It is an Eddystone made in Aug of 1918 chambered in 30.06.
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Re: a few of my Military rifles

Post by DaveC » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:55 pm

Cool. I'll tell ya, one of my military surplus "fish stories"--all the ones that "got away"--I once handled an Eddystone with the flaming bomb cartouche and the date 11-18 on the barrel. I thought it was neat that it had the month and date WWI came to an end right there on it.

As you know, Remington, Eddystone, and Winchester had built huge factory lines, tooling, etc. etc. for those UK contracts, so when the U.S. entered the war with just 600k M1903s, and a bunch of older Krags, ex-Russian contract M91 Mosins, and a handful of Canadian Rosses, Thompson of Thompson/Auto-Ordnance fame prudently directed the conversion of the P14 to .30-06, provided that some degree of interchangeability could be managed. So the majority of Doughboys carried the "American Enfield" that Ordnance didn't care for because of cock-on-closing, non-windage adjustable sights, and the aforementioned interchangeability/excessive fitting of parts issues... An industrial milestone little remembered due to incredible things like M1 carbine production in WWII and so on, but arguably the best--surely among the best--rifle of WWI.

Again, thanks for the pics. I think I see the buttstock of a Mosin peeking out on the upper right. Perhaps someday I'll land a Swedish Mauser, which is a rifle I quite like but don't presently own. ;)
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Re: a few of my Military rifles

Post by Banshee » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:41 am

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Re: a few of my Military rifles

Post by DaveC » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:30 pm

Very very excellent! Lots of UK/Dominion, Swiss, and Japanese in the collection there.

I used to have some Japanese carbines and rifles, but got out of them. Sometimes I linger over the substitute Type 99's from late in the war... The so-called "last ditch" rifles with wood butt plate, simplified manufacture, and fixed aperture sight.

In January I expect to take delivery of what will be my oldest: An original Model 1842 smooth-bore musket. Not in great shape, but I've fired it at the range and it is a hoot.

Finland's Centennial is tomorrow! So celebrate with your Finnish-stocked Mosin-Nagant rifle you've got there... M91/30? I have one of those with a so-called "hex receiver" made at Sestroryetsk in 1904, barrel from Tikkakoski Oy, 1944. A postwar build. Also 2 M/39s--one a postwar B barrel marked 1942, and the other a 1944 VKT assembled postwar in a so-called "straight stock" from SAKO.

You've got France covered with the MAS Mle. 1936/51 and Berthier '07/15! I like that Berthier! I've got the MAS 36 and FSA 1949/56.

M1 carbines, yes! I've got two Inlands from late '43. M1 Garand, very nice. Mine's a an April/May 1945 receiver with a June 1965 replacement barrel. Time was I had two Garands, but I let one go. 1903 Springfield, Kar98k is that a "Kriegsmodell" and laminate stock?, awesome M1917 American Enfield!
SMLE...
No. 4 Mk.1* with flip aperture sight?
Must be the Irish contract No. 4 Mk.ii from the 1950s, am I right?
Another No.4... Longbranch? Savage? two-groove barrel?
I'm guessing you've got yourself an Australian Lithgow SMLE there?
That is an outstanding collection of Arisakas. Dust covers are neat. Personally, I like how the Japanese did the dust cover on the Siamese Mauser.
Looks like you've got both the 1911 and 1931 Swiss Schmidt-Rubin rifles.
I do believe I see an SKS as well. Well, much else besides!

Thanks for letting us into your collection room... Or is "man cave?" Love the wood panneling. Very very nice indeed.
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Re: a few of my Military rifles

Post by Banshee » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:28 pm

Finland's Centennial is tomorrow! So celebrate with your Finnish-stocked Mosin-Nagant rifle you've got there... M91/30? I have one of those with a so-called "hex receiver" made at Sestroryetsk in 1904, barrel from Tikkakoski Oy, 1944. A postwar build. Also 2 M/39s--one a postwar B barrel marked 1942, and the other a 1944 VKT assembled postwar in a so-called "straight stock" from SAKO.

The receiver is Russian dated 41

You've got France covered with the MAS Mle. 1936/51 and Berthier '07/15! I like that Berthier!
I just the Berthier a couple weeks ago

M1 carbines, yes! I've got two Inlands from late '43. M1 Garand, very nice. Mine's a an April/May 1945 receiver with a June 1965 replacement barrel. Time was I had two Garands, but I let one go. 1903 Springfield, Kar98k is that a "Kriegsmodell" and laminate stock?, awesome M1917 American Enfield!

The M1 Carbine is a stamped 11-44. I put the I cut stock on it. It had a M2 "potbelly" stock when I got it.
The Garand is a 1953 Springfield.
The 98 is a "Semi Kriegsmodell" with bayonet lug and cleaning rod and laminate stock with no takedown disk.There is hole in the stamped butt plate. It must be a very early one, it is stamped CE 43 and a matching gun


SMLE...
No. 4 Mk.1* with flip aperture sight? Yes sir
Must be the Irish contract No. 4 Mk.ii from the 1950s, am I right? Yes sir
Another No.4... Longbranch? Savage? two-groove barrel? Longbranch but not a two Groove
I'm guessing you've got yourself an Australian Lithgow SMLE there? Yes sir
That is an outstanding collection of Arisakas. Dust covers are neat. Personally, I like how the Japanese did the dust cover on the Siamese Mauser.
I am rather fond of Arisakas
Looks like you've got both the 1911 and 1931 Swiss Schmidt-Rubin rifles. 1911, K11 and K31
I do believe I see an SKS as well. Well, much else besides!
There is a Russian SKS on the other wall

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Re: a few of my Military rifles

Post by DaveC » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:28 am

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Some of my guns are still visible at the post above. I've got some stuff that might be of interest:
i) Chinese (Norinco Type 56) (1967) SKS semi-automatic rifle, 7.62x39mm

ii) Chinese (Norinco Type 56) (1980) SKS semi-automatic rifle, 7.62x39mm


.30-06:
US Rifle, Cal. .30, M-1 (Garand) .30-06 (7.62x63mm) Springfield Armory mfr.
[Serial number indicates late April/early May 1945 mfr date, includes post-WWII sights and post 1944 stamped trigger assembly. Barrel from SA; it is from June 1965. Etching tool on receiver leg indicates “RAAD 10-65” – date of arsenal rebuild at Red River Army Depot, Texarkana, TX.
2x.30 US carbines:
US Carbine, cal. .30 M1 used by Bavarian Forestry Police during US-occupation of Germany post-WWII
Inland trigger housing unit, Austrian purple color with LGK ST [Landes Gendarmerie Kommando Steiermark {Graz/Styria} 19075 rack number on trigger guard]
Overall condition: “Service Grade,” VG+
Italian used: Type II Inland/SG Saginaw receiver with wide tang 1943

7.62x54Rmm Russian:
1 SVT-40 Samozaryadnaya vintovka Tokareva obr. 1940/
Самозарядная винтовка обр. 1940г.
1943 Tula stamped-electropencilled matching, refurbished SVT-40 rifle in AVT naval infantry/marine stock with two-baffle muzzle brake. Has correct wartime navy sling, black Mosin-Nagant cartridge pouches, single-compartment oiler, and gas-system wrench.

7.62x54Rmm:
[Jalkavaenääri kivääri/91 7.62x53mm M/91]
1 Mosin Nagant M-1891 bolt-action rifle, Finnish, re-barreled at Tikkakoski 1943, (N.E.W. receiver 1915-17).
i) Mosin-Nagant ex-Dragoon M91/30 bolt-action rifle, Soviet, 1921 Izhevsk, arsenal
rebuild post-WWII, 7.62x54mmR Russian/
ii) Mosin-Nagant ex-Dragoon M91/30 bolt-action rifle, Soviet, 1924 Tula, arsenal rebuild
with early C.A.I. Georgia VT import mark, Polish bolt and non-matching early 91/30 stock in worn, dinged condition. ]
iii) Mosin-Nagant ex-Dragoon M91/30 bolt-action rifle, Soviet, 1905 Izhevsk hex-
receiver, re-barreled at Izhevsk 1927, 91/30 conversion, arsenal rebuild post-WWII, 7.62x54mmR Russian/
iv) Mosin-Nagant ex-Dragoon M91/30 bolt-action rifle, Soviet, 1928 Tula hex-receiver,
arsenal rebuild post-WWII, 7.62x54mmR Russian
v) Mosin-Nagant ex-Dragoon M91/30 bolt-action rifle, Soviet, 1929 Tula hex-receiver,
arsenal rebuild post-WWII, Moscow GRAU (/1\)
vi) Mosin-Nagant ex-Dragoon M91/30 bolt-action rifle, Soviet, 1930 Izhevsk hex-
receiver (1 of 30,000?), 7.62x54mmR Russian
vii) Mosin-Nagant M91/30 bolt-action rifle, Soviet, 1933 Izhevsk hex-receiver with
Made in USSR stamp denoting use by the Ejército Popular Republicano in Spanish Civil War, 7.62x54r Good
viii) Mosin-Nagant M91/30 bolt-action rifle, Soviet, 1937 Izhevsk round-receiver with
Made in USSR stamp denoting use by Ejército Popular Republicano in Spanish Civil War, 7.62x54mmR Russian
ix) Mosin-Nagant M91/30 bolt-action rifle, Soviet, 1939 Izhevsk
x) Mosin-Nagant M91/30 bolt-action rifle, Soviet, 1941 no-maker hex-receiver, 1919
Tula receiver date, arsenal rebuild post-WWII, 7.62x54mmR Russian
xi) Mosin-Nagant M91/30 bolt-action rifle, Soviet, 1941 Izhevsk built on 1895 Tula
receiver (re-stamped on tang). Arsenal rebuild post-WWII, 7.62x54mmR
xii) Mosin-Nagant M91/30 bolt-action rifle, Soviet, 1941 Izhevsk built with a 1917 Tula
receiver (re-stamped on tang).
[7,62 KIV 39: 2]
i) Mosin-Nagant M/39 bolt-action rifle, Finnish, B-barrel 1942 1910 Izhevsk receiver
7.62x54mmR Russian
[7,62 KIV 39]
ii) Mosin-Nagant M/39 bolt-action rifle, Finnish, VKT-barrel 1944 1897 Tula receiver
7.62x54mmR Russian
[7,62 KIV 30]
Mosin-Nagant M/30 [1891/30] bolt-action rifle, Finnish, Tikkakoski barrel 1944, 1904
Sestroryetsk receiver, with M27 bolt connector slots, 7.62x54mmR Russian
[7,62mm Karabina obrazets 1944 goda]
1 Mosin-Nagant M1944 bolt-action carbine, Soviet, Tula 1944 built on re-stamped 1942
Izhevsk “high-wall” receiver. An uncommon M44 (1 of 95-100k?) produced at Tula only part of one year. 7.62x54mmR Russian.
[Karabina obrazets 91/59 goda]
1 Mosin Nagant M1891/59 bolt-action carbine, Soviet, cut down from Izhevsk, 1943


(7.5x54mm French: 2)
1 Fusil de 7,5 mm Mle 36, 7,5x54mm French MAS Model 36 bolt-action rifle

1 FSA Mle 49-56 7.5x54mm French MAS FSA Model 1949/56
self-loading service rifle

(9x23mm Largo: 2]
1 Astra M-1921 (400) semi-automatic pistol, Spanish, 9mm Largo (1937 date?)
(9x23mm)
1 Spanish Destroyer Carbine, bolt-action, 9mm Largo (1963 date) (9x23m)

7.62x25mm:
1 Zastava M-57 semi-automatic pistol, Yugoslav, 7.62x25mm Tokarev

22lr single-shot:
1 Swedish Husqvarna “Salongsgevär” Model 155 single-shot bolt-action rifle, .22lr 24.5" octagon barrel manufactured between 1921 and 1925.
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