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Spent shell stuck on extractor wile ejected. It happened twice in several 100 Rds of target loads.
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I'm new to computer and online I been shooting all my life. I only shoot shotguns and 1 glock 17 now. I got my first 870 express tactical and trying to up grade it I'm almost done just looking information
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I'm not sure what malfunction you're trying to describe, can you elaborate?
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The spent shell target loads come out eject so slow it jammed with the new round going in the chamber. This only happens with cheep target loads. I polished the chamber I installed a volquartsen extractor still some target loads don't eject very fast some eject good. Brass high and low work well. Just not as good as my mossberg hell you can't find spent shells I guess that's what happens with 2 extractors
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So you're having shells that aren't clearing the ejection port reliably? I guess i'm confused because you keep talking about extractors, but your problem seems to be ejection, not extraction.
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That's right it just doesn't throw every shell clear like my mossberg . I think the chamber tight are the shells aren't sized right away when they are hard to pull out of the chamber they fall off the extractor to quickly before they can get kicked out by the ejector . But I have installed a really good extractor
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If your extractor is coming off the shell rim before the hull hits the ejector, the hull will stay in the chamber or receiver, it won't even try to eject. What you're describing sounds like it could be a weak ejector spring (assuming your Express is a 12ga).

However, one thing to keep in mind is that the 870 is sort of the black sheep in a family of semi-automatic shotguns. It shares many parts and functions much the same way as semi-autos like the Remington 1100, 11-87, 878, and 58. The 870 just has a moving fore-end instead of a gas piston & action spring. Some of these semi-auto guns are so similar that you can drill a couple gas ports in an 870 barrel, and it'll work perfectly on them.

The point to this is that the 870's ejection system works best when you pull the slide back fast and hard, like the gas piston does in the 870's siblings. The faster you bring the bolt back, the faster the shell will hit the ejector, and the harder it'll get flipped out of the ejection port. This is kind of nice, actually; you can work the action quickly for good reliable ejection, or you can work it slowly and just have the fired hull pop right out into your hand or at your feet. This means spending less time bent over for folks like me who save their fired hulls for reloading. My brother's Ithaca 37, on the other hand, chucks shells so hard that they'll fly halfway down the range, no matter how slowly you cycle it (they do usually fly straight down since it's bottom-ejecting, but they still have enough velocity to bounce all over the place).

Also, since target shells have very short cups and their hulls aren't very long, their center of mass is further back, and they tend not to flip themselves out of the ejection port as readily as, say, a 3" shell with a very tall cup, or an unfired shell that has a lot of lead up front. Still, if you're working your action fast enough and nothing else is wrong, they should be ejecting reliably,
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You are right when I pull back fast it does work well also with high brass or low brass high cost amo it works good . The cheep target loads don't give the extractor much to hold onto. I think shooting buck shot or slugs I would never have a problem would you agree? I think you know more about gun than a lot of people on the Internet. I checked the ejector looks good it a new gun you just have to pump a fresh round in fast. I shoot mossberg and it doesn't matter how fast you pump a fresh round in so when I shoot the 870 express it not the same.
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