Faulty Extractor on New Gun? See photo.

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Ira
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Faulty Extractor on New Gun? See photo.

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Been reading about ejection problems with the MIM extractor, so I decided to take a good look at mine. Gun has never been fired, but notice the way the ejector doesn't seem to sit parallel, that's it's twisted in a counter-clockwise direction.

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Does yours look like this? It seems to be moving freely and not getting hung up anywhere.

I plan on polishing the chamber this weekend and giving her a total cleaning, but I figured I would hold off on swapping out the ejector and see what happens my first time at the range this week--especially since the steel ejector seems to be on back order everywhere anyway. (I'll try to give a sob story to Remington and see if I can get it for free, especially since I haven't even gotten my rebate back from them yet.)

Assuming I don't have the steel extractor in hand, should I just go to the range anyway and let the chips fall where they may? I have all Remington shells and Federal slugs, nothing really cheap.
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Re: Faulty Extractor on New Gun? See photo.

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I think I answered my own question:

On page 2 here, "New Police 870 Extractor Problem," I see a photo, where it seems to have this same twist.

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Re: Faulty Extractor on New Gun? See photo.

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Your extractor doesn't look abnormal to me. The extractor on the 870 doesn't sit tangent to the outside curve of the bolt, it's oriented "flat", or parallel to the top & bottom of the receiver. This may make it look cock-eyed, since the profile of the bolt curves "away" from the extractor on top, but that's where the extractor needs to be to grip the shell rim at the 3 o'clock position for proper feeding and extraction.
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That's why the extractors are chamfered on top, so that they sit more flush with the bolt's curved shape. The image you placed in your second post shows an improperly-machined extractor that lacks this chamfer, and gouged the receiver as a result. This is one problem with the machined (non-MIM) extractors, they can have dimensional variances or even missed machining steps, while the MIM parts (which, by the way, are also steel) are much more uniform since they all come out of the same mold.

Really, the MIM extractors work fine. Folks who criticize MIM parts (which all 870s have) usually don't understand the differences between old-school pressed & sintered powder metallurgy, and modern metal injection molding techniques. Metal injection molding is an advanced process that can produce complex parts that are extremely consistent and precise, with density & mechanical properties that are virtually identical to those of wrought alloys, all at a very low per-part production cost (with sufficient volume). This video does a pretty good job of explaining the process.

Remington is recognized as an industry leader in this technology, and has played a big part in developing and perfecting metal injection molding since the early eighties. Remington's award-winning Powdered Metal Products Division has supplied MIM parts for the automotive, electronics, and tool industries; in addition to firearm parts for Remington guns, and guns from other manufacturers. They know what they're doing when it comes to MIM part and process design.
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Re: Faulty Extractor on New Gun? See photo.

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Thanks for taking the time to answer me so thoroughly, Synch. I really appreciate it.

So I'm not going to worry about the extractor unless I have any FTE problems.
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