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Fellow Rem 870 enthusiasts,
I'm up to five double-action revolvers now:
.22 lr Ruger LCR ("the understudy")
.327 fed mag (.312") Ruger SP101 3-in. with bobbed hammer
.38+P S&W 638-2 Bodyguard Airweight ("the pocket carry of olde skool times")
.357 Ruger Speed Six 2-3/4" stainless with bobbed hammer and Tyler T-grip adapter ("The one" as in "all-in-one" handgun)
9x19mm Ruger Luger LCR with five extra moon-clips (Possible replacement for S&W? Goes with my Beretta 9mm "stürm-let" Carbine.
Happy 2015!
I'm up to five double-action revolvers now:
.22 lr Ruger LCR ("the understudy")
.327 fed mag (.312") Ruger SP101 3-in. with bobbed hammer
.38+P S&W 638-2 Bodyguard Airweight ("the pocket carry of olde skool times")
.357 Ruger Speed Six 2-3/4" stainless with bobbed hammer and Tyler T-grip adapter ("The one" as in "all-in-one" handgun)
9x19mm Ruger Luger LCR with five extra moon-clips (Possible replacement for S&W? Goes with my Beretta 9mm "stürm-let" Carbine.
Happy 2015!
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A mag safety is a deal-killer for me - at least in a defensive handgun. I don't want a gun that won't fire if I get caught in the middle of a reload, or if I accidentally hit the mag release in a stressful situation.Zebra62 wrote:The M&P does have the little internal lever inside the mag well to pull down rendering the weapon disfunctional. It is part of the take-down procedure. Mag out, lock the slide back, ensure weapon is unloaded, wiggle the tool out of the grip, move the lever down, unlock slide, trip the take down lever, take the slide off. Kinda complex. The Beretta is much easier.
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The lever inside the mag well on this one is not intended as a mag safety, I don't think, because it must be physically moved down to render the weapon disfunctional. It is part of the take down procedure. I think it is also there as a safety feature should the waepon be stored for an extended period.Synchronizor wrote:A mag safety is a deal-killer for me - at least in a defensive handgun. I don't want a gun that won't fire if I get caught in the middle of a reload, or if I accidentally hit the mag release in a stressful situation.
This is printed on the side of the slide: caution - capable of firing with magazine removed. No deal breaker there. My Beretta has a similar caution on the side of its slide: Fires without magazine.
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I'm of the fence as far as magazine safeties go.......
I personally know a police officer that was in a life threatening physical struggle with a suspect who gained control of the officers firearm. Before the suspect got the gun the officer dropped the firearms' magazine and that is what prevented the suspect from killing him. The gun would not fire without a magazine. I believe the firearm was an early generation S&W.
He does not recall choosing to press the mag release....... but it was the right thing to do ...... to save his life.
I personally know a police officer that was in a life threatening physical struggle with a suspect who gained control of the officers firearm. Before the suspect got the gun the officer dropped the firearms' magazine and that is what prevented the suspect from killing him. The gun would not fire without a magazine. I believe the firearm was an early generation S&W.
He does not recall choosing to press the mag release....... but it was the right thing to do ...... to save his life.
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I've considered that possibility, but to look at the flip side of the scenario you present; what if you manage to keep control of the gun in a similar struggle? You end up with a paperweight that's no good without a part that dropped to the ground and got kicked God-knows-where during the struggle, and your attacker is free to have another try at you. Presumably a police officer or a well-equipped civilian would have another magazine handy, but grabbing and inserting it would still take time, and a lot of concealed-carriers may not have another magazine on them, or it might be buried in a purse or pocket.BlueSmoke wrote:I'm of the fence as far as magazine safeties go.......
I personally know a police officer that was in a life threatening physical struggle with a suspect who gained control of the officers firearm. Before the suspect got the gun the officer dropped the firearms' magazine and that is what prevented the suspect from killing him. The gun would not fire without a magazine. I believe the firearm was an early generation S&W.
He does not recall choosing to press the mag release....... but it was the right thing to do ...... to save his life.
I think an argument could be made either way regarding the value or liability of magazine safeties during a hands-on retention struggle, but the fact that there are upsides and downsides to each makes that point of consideration kind of cancel itself out. The main problems I have with magazine safeties are that they leave the user vulnerable during a mag change, and that they render the gun inoperable in the event of an accidental magazine release. In those situations, a mag safety is only a liability.
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Pistols...
EDC is a S&W Shield 9mm (WITH the thumb safety), totally stock if I recall (why mess with perfection?).
Ruger SR9c -- That's a nice one. Was EDC until I tried the Shield. Now, the Nightstand Special.
Couple 22LR's -- The SR22 (perhaps the most perfect and wonderful rimfire pistol I've ever owned), M&P22 (fun as hell, drives tacks, even the wife & daughter love it).
And just added this BMF last week -- Love affair. Was hoping for a "cost effective fun gun" -- Wound up with one of the most awesome 1911 (slash "2011") type pistols I've ever fired. A couple polish tweaks (everything - I mean EVERYTHING - is Parkerized) and it's the new boss. 3 pounds even - empty. A little Flitz and a rotary tool on the rails and it's like it's sliding on ball bearings.
Sorry - I don't mean to fawn... I just can't wait to get back to the range.
There may be others...
EDC is a S&W Shield 9mm (WITH the thumb safety), totally stock if I recall (why mess with perfection?).
Ruger SR9c -- That's a nice one. Was EDC until I tried the Shield. Now, the Nightstand Special.
Couple 22LR's -- The SR22 (perhaps the most perfect and wonderful rimfire pistol I've ever owned), M&P22 (fun as hell, drives tacks, even the wife & daughter love it).
And just added this BMF last week -- Love affair. Was hoping for a "cost effective fun gun" -- Wound up with one of the most awesome 1911 (slash "2011") type pistols I've ever fired. A couple polish tweaks (everything - I mean EVERYTHING - is Parkerized) and it's the new boss. 3 pounds even - empty. A little Flitz and a rotary tool on the rails and it's like it's sliding on ball bearings.
Sorry - I don't mean to fawn... I just can't wait to get back to the range.
There may be others...
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Ruger SR9c all the way. Then my Ruger GP100 .357 Mag.
Actually, it depends on what use they will be put to. Love them both, as well as my Ruger SR45.
I'm kind of a Ruger fanboy as far as pistols go, but I like others as well. I have owned Sig and Springfield Armory pistols and like them both.
Actually, it depends on what use they will be put to. Love them both, as well as my Ruger SR45.
I'm kind of a Ruger fanboy as far as pistols go, but I like others as well. I have owned Sig and Springfield Armory pistols and like them both.
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